Esther loved children and combined this love with her love of music. Esther participated in a number of concerts of "Noah's Flood", listed on the programs as playing the recorder. Esther was one of the early founders of the "Mid Peninsula Recorder Orchestra" (MPRO). Esther studied music in the Stanford Music department with professor Houle, and was close friends with professor Leonard Ratner and his wife Inge. Esther learned of the important relationship with dance in Early Music. Indeed, Esther and her second husband met due to their common interest in Early Music. In addition, both Esther and Matthew also loved to attend opera favorites including Mozart's "Die Zauberflöte", "Idomeneo", "Don Giovanni", Così fan tutte; Verdi's "Rigoletto", "Aïda", "Don Carlos", etc.; J. Strauss' "Die Fledermaus"; "Khovanshina", "Lulu", etc. but also they shared the pleasure and beauty of Gilbert and Sullivan works. Both Esther and Matthew also enjoyed "ethnic" music and dance, Northwest Coastal Indian art of the Tlingit, Haida, Tsimshian, Nootka, Kwakiutl, etc. and they could often be found in museums.
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